Why aiming for herd immunity to deal with the coronavirus is still a bad idea | DW News Updated for 2024

Updated: March 23, 2024



The term “herd immunity” has been coming up a lot in the discussion of how to best slow down the spread of COVID-19. Some politicians appeared to be …

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  1. Many old people worked an lived their whole live to support their children and grandchildren. To give them a future.
    Because of corona they may have died or die a bit earlier. The lock-down regulations, made it all worse for them. In the last hours before they died, their children and loved ones could not be with them. But also, left many in an economic disaster.
    Herd immunity should have been the goal.
    But yeah, have to sell vaccines… Veri sad

  2. This isn't exactly true about small pox… My aunt had chicken pox as a kod and contracted small pox while taking care of her autistic grand son with chicken pox

  3. For Herd Immunity to work:
    1) First you have to prove that catching the Coronavirus and recovering from it makes you immune which still hasn’t been proven and if it happens, it could take years before you develop enough antibodies (if ever) to make you immune
    2) Coronavirus has to be a virus that you won’t get be able to get infected a second and third time if you are re-exposed to the virus as in the situation with gonorrhea which you can catch over and over again and never become immune to it
    3) You have to have some idea of how many people in the population have had the infection in the past which is next to impossible since only 2% of our population has been tested
    4) Then you have to develop a successful vaccine for all the people who haven’t been infected, determine how long the immunity lasts, if you can catch the virus from the vaccine as in the case of an inactivated viral vaccine, whether you need boosters to the vaccine and how long the boosters last before you need another booster, etc.
    5) Then you have to have the cooperation of all the parties involved to eradicate the disease as in the example smallpox because in the case of the measles, parents unwilling to get their children vaccinated defeat the purpose of developing herd immunity and create a large reservoir of the virus for people to get infected from and thus, killing many unvaccinated children and adults whose immunity has worn off because they didn’t get re-vaccinated
    6) You have to determine that the long-term complications of getting infected are worth risking the uninfected population from catching the infection, which in the example of HIV infection, the risks outweigh the benefits because the long-term complications are getting other infections such as Toxoplasmosis, Mycobacterium, Pneumocystis Carinni, Kaposi’s sarcoma, Hepatitis B an C, etc.
    7) There has to be a possibility of ever developing a vaccine for Coronavirus at all since we have been trying to develop a vaccine for HIV for the past40 years but the virus mutates too quickly, a similar problem we have seen in developing a stable influenza vaccine which can only “guess the strains ” from the previous year’s virus

  4. The viruses have a chance to mutate every time they leave the body of a host with slight fresh genetic updates. So by mathematics, more the virus is spread, more there is a chance for it to mutate in different variations. The biggest issue is, then, the herd immunity expectation can go very wrong, if the virus has more tricks to show. In fact, new deadly cases in the infant and young children might prove that there is too much underestimate going on. So be cautious!

  5. There is not a single shred of evidence that infection with Covid 19 leads to immunity. Most people develop antibodies but it hasn't been proven that this will provide immunity. Some recover without developing any detectable levels of antibody. Are they immune? What about people who are infected and asymptomatic do they develop antibodies? Also what about thos who are infected, suffer disease and recover? Many of them will suffer from new long term chronic disease as a result of the disease not to mention large numbers emotionally scarred with implications for mental health. Some strains of coronavirus cause the common cold and reinfect us multiple times. Some studies have shown that people get infected by the exact same strain of virus as short as 8 to 11 weeks after infection the first time. Others may have immunity lasting a year or two. We have no idea how long if any natural immunity lasts after infection.

    Natural herd immunity is the worst idea I've ever heard of as a deliberate strategy.

  6. Beautiful smile, but awkwardly happy about the subject. Herd immunity is not a proper strategic response without a vaccine.

  7. A lot of people are still stuck in the magical thinking phase. If they just stay under the blankets long enough, the monster will go away. This monster isn't going away.

  8. Weird she starts with the conclusion that herd immunity is too costly but makes no attempt to weigh the risks. Like… Lets say we can't develop an effective vaccine for 3, 4 or 10 years. Is that risky or am I just being troublesom

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